Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Got my mind on my money and my money on my mind

Lindsay has loans.  A lot of loans.  So does her husband.  Between the two of them, these loans total about as much as a house. 


Where did they go wrong?



In 2008, just four years ago, Lindsay and her husband were debt-free.  The couple had just graduated college and were newly engaged.  They had big dreams, dreams they pursued - Lindsay, to medical school; her then-fiance, Doug, to law school.  Then came the debt.

Doug's loans covered only part of his tuition and fees, so Lindsay took out additional medical school loans to pay for Doug's law school at the lower interest rate - 6.8% instead of 8.5%.  Doug is now graduated from law school and has monthly payments of just under $1000.  When Lindsay graduates from medical school in a month those payments will more than double.  Their loan payments will cost twice as much as their rent.  It will take them over 10 years to pay off their student loans.

"It's stressful," said Lindsay.  "As frugal as we both are, it's still a constant thought on our minds."

Lindsay spent hours every week clipping coupons, and both cooked to save money.  The couple never almost went out to eat, not even on their anniversary or birthdays.  They lived at home for a year and a half and commuted until Lindsay's hospital schedule was simply not maintainable at that distance.  "We couldn't have done it cheaper," said Lindsay.

Now, others have begun paying attention to Lindsay and the millions of students like her.  Student debt has topped $1 trillion dollars, an amount that surpasses even credit card debt.  At UW-Madison, the Teaching Assistants' Association (TAA) held a campaign on Library Mall to raise awareness for this loan crisis.  According to the group, college tuition has increased by 400% over the last 30 years, which has far outpaced inflation.


Signs for 1T on Library Mall


Politicians, too, have begun to pay attention to the issue.  At a recent engagement at UNC-Chapel Hill, President Obama told students that he and Michelle had mountains of loan debt.


"Check this out, all right, I'm the President of the United States - we only finished paying off our student loans about eight years ago," said Obama.  "I didn't just read about this," he continued - a jab at super-rich Romney.


Obama's plan includes pushing Congress to extend Stafford loans, and Republicans say they agree.    So what's the problem?

How do we pay for it?

There is no consensus.  Obama says his Buffett rule, a plan which would raise taxes substantially on the rich, would offset the cost.  Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has embraced Obama's student loan proposal, but members of Congress say it's just not reasonable.  An estimated $6 billion cost would be added if low-interest rates are extended, which "isn't affordable."  Romney has not yet offered specifics on how he would pay for these reforms.

Either way, Congress must act by July 1, or loan rates will double.


In a legitimately cool effort to make his policies interesting, Obama joined late night host Jimmy Fallon to "slow jam the news," touting his views and policies.  (The link directs you to the video, but it's so good that I'm also going to post it here:)





Is this just the newest issue on the campaign trail, or will actual efforts be made toward student loan reform?  Even when both presidential candidates agree, they disagree.


Amidst claims that a student should work during school to supplement their loans, Lindsay sighs.


"Doug worked summers and did a semester of work study, and I worked the summer between my first and second years doing research," she said.  "But it never even occurred to me to have a part time job."  In her third and fourth years, Lindsay worked 60-80 unscheduled hours a week.  She worked weekends and nights in hospitals and clinics.  She attended every class in medical school, went to labs on weekends, and studied 8-10 hours a day.  "It is a job."



For now, Lindsay will continue pinching pennies.  "A $3 cup of coffee is going to be $5," she told me.  "You're spending more money than you think you're spending.  Everything you buy, you're paying back twice as much over time."


Things have gotten out of control, says Lindsay.  "We tell students that they have to go to college and be educated to succeed, but we put all these barriers in their way."  For now, her husband is earning money in a one-year position before the couple moves to the state where Lindsay was matched for her residency.  The uncertainty of Doug's job, finding an apartment within their budget, and trying to earn enough money to pay back their loans and also live on, is a strain.


Lindsay never complains about her loans - this was her decision.  Even so, the financial burden on the couple can be stressful.

"Getting an education is important, and one of the prices is having student debt and loans.  But it should be a manageable amount."


Keep the conversation going: What do you think about student loan debt?  Should the government step in?  If so, how should they pay for it?

6 comments:

  1. I loved theis article - well written and it made me think. The real numbers made it more real for me. Lindsay will be paying more in dept per month than I pay for my four dedroom newly built house. Something is very wrong here.

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    1. Thank you so much - I'm glad you enjoyed it. It is pretty shocking isn't it? We hear pundits talk about student loan debt on the news, but having a "face" really helps to put it in perspective.

      I didn't include it in the post, but one pundit said on CNN that students should not take out more than $10,000 in loans per YEAR!! In one year for me, I've taken out about $20,000 (which includes one semester where I didn't have to pay tuition). Lindsay responded by saying that it's "absurd" and "impossible" to take out such a small amount, unless you were born into money haha :)

      Anyway, thanks again for your input!

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  2. This isn't surprising, and in fact I watched an hour long video online about how college is actually a scam now because of all the money that's required, the vicious cycle about interest and fees and requirements. Here's the video, I highly suggest you watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww4m8GUK69E

    Basically, I agree that more effort needs to be put into training people in skills/trades, rather than requiring any kind of degree for a job. I was extremely lucky that I was able to graduate from undergrad debt-free, and get into a PhD program that had a stipend, so I am able to earn my higher degree and be paid for the job that it is.

    For specialized training that society needs, like medical school, I think the amount of money required just to attend school is crazy - like Lindsay said, it is a job, all on its own.

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    1. I think what's unfortunate is that it's NOT surprising. Thanks for your comment, and for the video tip. I'll definitely take a look!

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    2. A slightly separate issue, but why is there even such a need for loans in the first place? Because the price of higher education is unreasonably exorbitant in this country. If you look back on your college education, was it really worth the $40,000 per year? There are two ways to interpret that question. One would be yes, it was worth it because without a college education, it's impossible to get even the most menial of jobs. On the other hand, no. I did not get $40,000 worth of education each year. I got two letters after my name that are supposed to make my life a lot easier, but to be perfectly honest, I learned more from my completely free public school K-12 education.

      I love capitalism. I really do. Competition makes each entity competing for your money a better entity. I firmly believe that. But at some point, all of the private universities (or insurance companies if you want to extend the analogy) have made some unwritten collusion that it was OK, even necessary, to gouge the American public. It's OK because this is now the status quo. It may be a subconscious decision, but it is a decision they uphold each year as they raise the rates of tuition.

      As if this reply wasn't long enough, let me finish by noting one difference I've seen between American and European higher education. In the US, the opportunity to get external funding is nearly zero. European students thrive on all sorts of little funding bodies that you apply to for grants to further your education. These are grants that government, private donors, endowments, etc give toward specific causes that they would like to fund -- grants that are not expected to be paid back. The European system is driven by students taking full control of their education, including how to fund it. Americans decry Europe as being socialist, but what is more emblematic of the American dream than financial freedom?

      PS. This is Abhi. I am bored in my lab and I followed Lara's link to your page from her Facebook. Nice writing!

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    3. Abhi - great point! As I mentioned, tuition has raised 400% since the 1980s, and that certainly is a huge problem. I won't even add on here, because I think your comment speaks for itself :) Thanks for reading!

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